The buyer with a vague pain statement
A director says new reps ramp too slowly. The rep has to turn a symptom into evidence.
The new team is ramping slowly. We have onboarding, call recordings, and managers, but reps still struggle for the first few months.
Skill testedFollow-up depth: from symptom to observable behavior
Two briefs. Hand each sheet to one person only.
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Rep brief
Everything the seller may know before the call.
- You sell
- You sell a sales coaching and practice product to sales and enablement leaders.
- Situation
- A director of sales enablement says new reps ramp too slowly. The company recently shifted upmarket, but the buyer has not connected that change to a specific rep behavior. Turn a broad symptom into observable evidence.
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Buyer brief Private
For the person playing the buyer. Keep the difficulty at cooperative for the first attempt and the retry.
- Open with
- “The new team is ramping slowly. We have onboarding, call recordings, and managers, but reps still struggle for the first few months.”
- Hidden facts
- The problem is concentrated in discovery calls with technical buyers. Reps accept vague answers, then demo too early because the onboarding examples still reflect the company's former buyer.
- Pressure
- The VP of Sales believes hiring quality is the problem. You believe the training is outdated, but you cannot ask for budget without evidence that distinguishes the two.
- Reveal rules
- Share the upmarket shift if the rep asks what changed. Reveal the early-demo pattern only after the rep asks about a recent call, what managers observe, or the exact moment the conversation breaks down.
- How to react
- If the rep asks only about financial impact, say too many variables changed to isolate it.
- If the rep assumes the cause, challenge the assumption with an alternative explanation.
- If the rep asks for call-level evidence, describe the shallow follow-up and early demo.
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Score the attempt. One row per pass criterion.
| Pass criterion | Met | Partly | Missed | Evidence (quote or timestamp) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Identifies one observable conversation behavior and the cohort affected. | Met | Partly | Missed | Evidence |
| Separates evidence from competing explanations. | Met | Partly | Missed | Evidence |
| Clarifies what the team would need to observe before choosing an intervention. | Met | Partly | Missed | Evidence |
Debrief
- Which questions produced evidence instead of another hypothesis?
- Where did the rep assume causation?
- What evidence would distinguish a hiring issue from a training issue?
Retry
One retry goal
Live call to check it on
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